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Monday, August 31, 2020

3 Fires and a Wedding - Ancestors in 52 Weeks


This year's challenge is 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks and is run by Amy Johnson Crow.

Information on the Topic
Week 23's theme is "Wedding." June is a traditional month for weddings, so what better time to highlight the story of an ancestor's wedding? Maybe you've found something surprising in a marriage record or you have an ancestral wedding photo.

For this topic, I'm going to do something different. I don't usually use these topics to post about myself, but here we are. This one I'm going to tell you the story of 3 fires and a wedding. Yep, it was an interesting but frustrating time in our history. However, if nothing else, it made us stronger - especially as we had to contend with Australian immigration to get me moved - legally - from the US to Australia which we did by ourselves. 

Background 
My husband and I met online in February 1995. I was at SUNY Technology at Utica/Rome in New York and Brett was living in Melbourne Australia. We were both looking for email pen pals. I already had about 5 or so and it gave me something to do while away at school. Normally I'm a very busy person, but when I was away, I had so much time on my hands that I figured I'd meet people online instead of around campus as many people were acting like idiots more than anything so I stayed away from them. 

Anyhow, I found my now husband and we exchanged emails, then talked on chat programs, and finally over the phone. This lasted about 6 months before he started to talk about coming over to visit me in NY. 
Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at Howe Caverns in NY

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at Howard Johnson in Middletown NY

September 1995 he finally came over to visit me and my family. He stayed for about 8 weeks where we visited places like Howe Caverns, Sam's Point, and went to a few weddings as well. 

Then he came back to Australia. After a few months we were engaged and we started the process of trying to figure out the immigration side of things as we didn't know if who was moving where. We finally decided that I would move to Australia and then the research really started. Then couple that with the wedding as well. Yep, it was crazy. 

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at Melbourne Airport before Jo flew back to NY

We decided I would visit in November 1996 for a few weeks, which we did. Then I went back to the US to file the paperwork to permanently move to Australia and the wedding. We did some preparation work for the wedding while I was here, but it was basically just putting a few bits and pieces away after that. 

I filed the migration documents to move in January and we married in May 1997. 
Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at Melbourne Airport in Melbourne Australia.

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at Melbourne Airport in Melbourne Australia.

Where does the 3 fires come into it?
The 3 fires comes into it when we married. 

Fire 1
I arrived in May 1997 only to find the house we were to live in had a house fire. This was fire number 1. While everyone was at work, it looked like the fire started in my husband's bedroom. It was only later we found out that someone my husband knew went into the room and smashed a TV into the floor of the bedroom which started the fire due to it being plugged in. 
Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at his home in Melbourne Australia (Brett's Room)

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at his home in Melbourne Australia (hallway to kitchen)

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at his home in Melbourne Australia (kitchen)

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at his home in Melbourne Australia (living room)

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at his home in Melbourne Australia (Jo picking up what she could from inside the house. Window is Brett's bedroom)

My husband's great aunt called the local newspaper to get it in there for some reason. If nothing else it was well marked for an event. 
Credit: Leader Newspaper taken in Brett's room for local newspaper.

Credit: Leader newspaper. Taken outside in backyard with Brett's bedroom window in background.

The next 2 fires happened on the same night and the night before we got married. 

Fire 2
The first one was at the place we had booked in for our reception. Someone showed up the night before our wedding, poured gas along one of the walls, and lit it. Thankfully, there was still people there who noticed the smell and found the wall and its surroundings on fire. Thankfully, they were able to put it out before it got out of control. The semi-funny part was that night had a function where everyone who attended was associated with the police, so if the person showed up earlier they would have caught them. 

Fire 3
The third, and last fire, was at the place I was to get dressed at the morning of the wedding. After catching up on some normal everyday stuff, Brett brought me to a friend's house where I was to get ready the next day. The friend really wanted to be a part of our day, and she had a great garden for pictures, we decided it would be a good place for me to get ready. However, at 4am our friend heard something outside and came out to see what it was. I woke up and we found her car was on fire. The car was parked right next to the house and a window. I told her to call the fire department and we got the rest of the people in the house up. I packed up my stuff and called around to get my soon to be father in law around to help figure out what to do. It was only after the fire department came that we were told the fire was due to someone screwing around with the electronics in the windshield wipers and that started the fire. 

The wedding
Due to this, we figured out we had to move everything from where I was to where one of the attendants houses. We had to redirect the makeup person, the hairdresser, the limo and the photographer. Meanwhile, the guys had to be redirected to where my father in law was staying because I was at where they were supposed to be. 

Hubby and his groomsmen had their pictures taken by the photographer, then were all picked up and taken to the wedding/reception place. We were married at the same place we were going to have a reception at. We figured that would be easier than anything else. Anyhow, they were dropped off and were told about the second fire I outlined above about the gas on the wall. Then they waited. Meanwhile, I took a shower, dressed, had my makeup and hair done, and the photographer showed up. Everyone was here - with the exception of my father in law showing up just before we were to leave - to go to the reception after pictures. Then we got inside the reception place and were finally married. 

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at our wedding & reception business

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at our wedding & reception business

Credit: B. Fitzgerald taken at our wedding & reception business

We had a great time that night even though I didn't know many people who were there. I was ok with that. 

If nothing else, we will never forget these events!

Follow up note
Years later, we had a friend call up and apparently she made a statement to the cops about the above events. The person who we suspected, but could never prove, was the person behind it all. Last we heard she had a warrant out for her arrest. We never heard about an outcome after this. 

Saturday, October 19, 2019

Adventures of an Ancestor - Ancestors in 52 Weeks

This year's challenge is 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks and is run by Amy Johnson Crow.

Topic Info:
Week 42 brings "Adventure." Do you know of an ancestral adventure, be it great or small? How about an adventure that you've had while researching?

I've had many adventures while researching and it's hard to just pick one up. I've already discussed tracing my paternal grandmother and great grandmother's journey towards Danzig as the different armies were swarming towards and to Warsaw was falling in 1920. 
Jimmy Sherman. Credit

Then there was the locating my maternal grandfather and the family's move all over due to his work with the railway. This covered PA, NY and NJ

There was my mother's cousin, James "Jimmy" Sherman and the tracing of his life. This was made list of contents of his file at the USAF in Miami, Florida and the accident report which claimed his life.
easier by the

I could go on and on. This is the tricky bit...to pick just one.

For this prompt, I'll talk about one of the people who I have written a bit about. My uncle, Louis Julius Gauquie.

Louis Joseph Gauquie in the 1950s. Credit J. Gauquie
Growing up, my mother only told me he was dead. Imagine my shock when I started to research him, I learned he was alive until 1995. I could have visited him if I was able to if only I had known. Anyhow, he sounds like he was on one adventure after another by his travelling around I found.

My uncle Louis was the oldest of my mother's siblings. Including her, there were 3 of them - Louis, Joanna (my mother), and James (or Jimmy).

1936 - Happy Birthday! - 1938
Louis' life story begins on March 5,1936 in Cornwall, New York. His parents are Louis Peter Gauquie and Janet Dorothy Barry Jagodzinski Gauquie. According to the business directory, his father, Louis, was a bridgeworker for ERR or Erie Railway. They lived at 28 Henry Avenue, Newburgh. The family moved by the time he was 2 in 1938.

In 1938, the business directory said the family was now living at 69 Bushnell Avenue, Newburgh, New York. His father was still doing the same position in the railway. What's really interesting is Bushnell Avenue can't be found on any map like Google Earth. Could it have disappeared when the Urban Development happened? This will have to be looked at in the Newburgh Library when we visit.

In March 1939, his sister (my mother) Joanna Gauquie was born in Newburgh, New York. Further, by this time, the family had moved again to 69 Berkard Avenue, Newburgh, New York according to his father's (my grandfather's) railway compensated service documents.

69 Berkard Ave Newburgh NY house in 2012. Credit: Google Earth in 2019
According to the railway documents, his father was a painter on the Erie Railway working for the Department of Structure within the railway system.

The 1939 business directory, still had them at 69 Benkard Avenue address. His father was still employed as a bridgeman for the railway.

By September 1, 1939, there was a real estate transfer in Milford, PA in the Westfall Township, so the family was on the move once again, but this time to PA.

This was also the date World War 2 started in Europe.

Credit
The 1940 US Census, taken on May 28, 1940, has them still located in Westfall Township. The address they are at is 52 10th Street, Westfall, PA.

The PA 1940 Census. Gauquie family is on lines 12-15. Credit
Apparently his father liked heights so he got those jobs. Credit
The census tells us a bit about the family. They owned the place they lived and it was valued at 1500. It was only the small family of 4 living in the house. Louis, who was put down as Louis Jr, age was 4 years old. His father was 30 and his mother was 29 years old. His father completed 8th grade and his mother completed 7th grade. His father was born in New York, and his mother was born in Pennsylvania. His parents lived in Salisbury Mills, Orange County, NY in 1935. This is where Louis Jr's grandfather lived which was a farm. His father's occupation was a riveter for the railway. His father worked 36 weeks in 1939 and had made $1080 for that year.

On the census, there's a section on the bottom for more questions. The government chooses people who fall on certain lines must complete it and for this year, Louis Jr's entry, fell onto this line. It does not have much information in it mainly because he's a 4 year old.

October 16, 1940, Louis' father had to register for World War 2. The address is a PO Box in Matamoras, in Pike County, in PA. He is still working for the Erie Railway company (under FA Howard) which the head office was located in Cleveland, Ohio. The registration place was in Westfall, Pike County, PA. The court house was in Milford, PA.

The next time I pick the family up again is in the newspaper on June 23, 1942. The family came up to spend time with Louis Jr's uncle William and grandfather for Father's Day. This tells us the family is now located in Jersey City, NJ. 

Highlighted area above. Credit
By this point, Louis Jr will now be about 6 years old.

In August 1944 his brother, James J Gauquie, was born. Everyone called him Jimmy. Louis would have been 8 years old.

September 2, 1945 World War 2 ends.

On May 8, 1946,  the newspaper has his mother selling hats and bags she made in the newspaper in Newburgh, NY, so they are back in Newburgh.  Louis Jr is about 10 years old.


On August 17, 1946, the newspaper once again tells us they are in Matamoras, PA but they had recently been around Newburgh, NY to visit family.


On October 13, 1946, the newspaper lists the death of his grandfather, Jules Gauquie. The address for the family is Matamoras, PA. Louis Jr would be about 10 years old. His sister would be 7 years old, and his brother, Jimmy, would be about 2 years old. My mother told me they went and stayed in the house. Their grandfather's body was downstairs in the living room and people kept coming in to say goodbyes all night long. She remembers sitting at the top of the stairs looking down at them and the dead body which she was scared of.

On April 3, 1948, Louis Jr's uncle James marries in Salisbury Mills, NY. His father was the best man at the wedding. It says the family is now living in Newburgh, New York once again.



The above wedding picture. Louis Jr's father is from the left the 2nd one. Credit: Gailfboo

In the September 2, 1948 Milford, PA newspaper it says his parents have sold their bungalow in Bell Manor and they went through a real estate agency for the sale. It states the family has recently moved back to Newburgh, NY.



By 1949, the Newburgh Business directory now has the family on 114 Walsh Avenue, New Windsor, NY. His father is now a plumber. Louis Jr would now be 13 years old.

Even though his father was out of the railway by now, they still lived right next to the railway line. This is where the house stood but stands no more as of 2019. Credit: Google Earth in 2019.

About July 18, 1949, his father paid a fine for driving under the influence of alcohol. He pleaded guilty in court. It confirms the address of Walsh Avenue, New Windsor. He was driving along Route 32 at about 2:45 am Sunday by a New Windsor barracks of the state police. This backs up my father's story he recently told me about how my grandfather used to drive home drunk. All the cops in town knew him and let him go, but watched him. It looked like this time the normal cops let him go but the it was the state cops who arrested him. Remember, Louis Jr would have only been 13, so had a good influence on him.


Note: My father, who was close to the family prior to marrying my mother, knew Louis Jr would drink until he didn't remember. He would drive home, hit cars, and leave the car door wide open. He would never remember in the morning. His father (remember the newspaper article above?) would come in and yell at him for drinking and not realizing he was just doing what he saw his father doing. The sad part is Louis Jr's father, didn't know how he got home either because he was drunk as well.

In August 10 1949, Louis Jr's father had put a business ad in the Newburgh, newspaper for Chimneys and Furnaces cleaning especially oil burners. It gave a telephone number and requested people call after 5pm.


The same ad appeared the next few weeks as well.

In 1950, the Social Security Applications and Claims have an entry for him listing his name as Louis Julious Gauquie. This must have been when he filled out his Social Security form for working.

In 1951, the Newburgh business directory has his mother and father at the same address and his father was still a plumber. There is no listing for Louis Jr. so he must not have started working yet. He would have been 15 years old.

On June 13, 1952, the Newburgh newspaper puts in a group shot of Junior boys from Newburgh, where he's going to school. He would be 16 years old.

Louis Jr is the 4th row fourth from right. 
Then on August 13 1953, he enrols into the military. He would have been 17 years old. Meanwhile, his father is still cleaning furnaces and chimneys by vacuum cleaning according to a newspaper article.


The entry of his US Navy class. Above is a close up of his face. Credit: Ancestry.com
Note: I do know, from talking to my father who was about the same age, there were no jobs in the area. The employment was starting to fall due to factories and other businesses slowing down now World War 2 was finished and the amount of products needed were not as great. Many young men in the area enrolled in the military for employment.

In 1954 the Vietnam War starts. North Vietnamese begin helping South Vietnamese rebels fight South Vietnamese troops, thus BEGINS the Vietnam conflict.

The USS Duncan (DDR 874). Credit
On December 22, 1954, there was a write up on what he was doing in the military. He was in the US Navy and was aboard the radar picket destroyer USS Duncan(DDR-874). It was on a tour of duty to the far east and was getting ready to dock in San Diego. Louis Jr would have been 18 years old.



It looks like he had settled into military life and had already made Fireman Machinist's Mate. You must study and take a passing test in order to get ths ranking.

Oh March 23, 1955, Louis Jr marries Edith Rollings in Middletown, New York. He would have been 19 years old.
Grooms Index for Louis J Gauquie (about middle). Credit
Note: I do know from talking to my mother, there was a huge family fight which saw her brother Louis (who this post is about), her, their father and their Aunt Florence not speaking by the end. It had something to do with their maternal grandmother, Bernice Jagodzinska/Jagodzinski. After this my mother married and so did her older brother (she believed which is what I've proven by marriage index). I believe this was sometime between March and October (when my parents married) 1955 due to the marriage indexes and when Louis Jr was around.

Apparently, their maternal grandmother, Bernice Barry/Jagodzinski/a was a huge factor in their lives. When their mother was unavailable, she stepped in to help out the family by watching the kids, cleaning the house and making dinner. Because of this Louis Jr, Joanna, and Jimmy were very close to her.

Note: Louis Jr's mother, Janet, was in and out of mental hospitals at least 3 times in the 1950s my mother told me. This included getting electric shock to try to return her to normal. However, the last time Janet was returned it was in her sister and brother in law's care. However, the doctor noticed something not right and investigated and took her out of their care and put into New York State's care. Due to this, she was constantly transferred around the state without notice to anyone, which I (her granddaughter) personally have knowledge of.

In January 1957, they welcomed their first child, Louis Michael Gauquie. Louis Jr would have been 21 years old. Louis Michael they named him as Louis the III despite having different middle names.

The USS Rowan in 1957. Credit
In February 20, 1957 the Newburgh newspaper reported he was now a machinist mate 3rd class and is scheduled to return shortly to San Diego, CA on board USS Rowan. This means he hadn't been at the birth of his child, Louis Michael as they had been gone more than six months in the Western Pacific. It tells us his mother and father are still in Newburgh and clarifies his wife's maiden name.


In 1957, the Newburgh business directory has his name spelled wrong, but lists is wife, Edith. It tells us he got out of the military and is now an assembler in Mahwah, NJ, but they live at 195 Linden Avenue, Newburgh.

195 linden ave Newburgh-New Windsor NY back of house Credit: Google Earth in 2019

195 linden ave Newburgh-New Windsor NY front of house Credit: Google Earth in 2019
However, the assembler job must not have lasted too long because by February 27, 1957 he has another date in the Veterans Affairs file as being employed as Other. Maybe he was a contractor is what we're thinking.



In 1958, the Newburgh business directory still has his name spelled wrong (Lewis) but still gives his wife's name. This time it has they have removed to Lincoln, Nebraska. Usually when it has removed it means they have moved to the town or state they've named. It was time to go looking at Nebraska.

The entry into the business directory in Newburgh for Louis (spelled Lewis) in 1958.

The Lincoln, Nebraska 1958 business directory has them down as Louis J and Edith Gauquie. He is working for the USAF (United States Air Force). Their home address is 4426 Baldwin Avenue, Lincoln, Nebraska. He's now 22 years old.

In 1959, 1960, and 1961 they are still there, according to the business directories, but are now living at 2701 North 27th Street, Lincoln Nebraska. He's still with the USAF. He's 23 years old.

Why Lincoln, Nebraska? There was a military base there called  Lincoln Air Force Base which is now(2019) known as Lincoln's Air Park West Industrial Zone.

"Throughout the 1950's Lincoln became a major Strategic Air Command base and a very powerful asset to American nuclear forces. Its B-47 complement would number above 100 at times before 1965 and news of missile deployment assured the area in 1958 that the base would be there long into the future. KC-97 tankers meanwhile stood a less famous mission but nonetheless made the B-47 medium bomber into a strategic one. The 20 aircraft of each squadron provided  support with its dual transport/refueling role. By 1959 an "Alert Force" concept came to dominate SAC's bomber operations in the face of the 1957 Sputnik incident and the now shortened warning time of a Soviet attack. Also in 1959, 2nd Air Force assumed jurisdiction over the base and the naming of several units would change from 1958 into 1962. Strategic missiles coming into the mix would cause institutional changes themselves. Lincoln Air Force Base would move into the 1960's a very large and strong strategic American air base." Source
Above shows you why they moved him to the area and how stable is employment was. The area was growing.

In 1961, Louis Jr and Edith welcome their second child, a daughter. The address listed is their home address as in the business directory. In my research, I believe her name is Deb, but this is not proven.


On October 3, 1964, his grandmother Bernice Jagodzinski/a died in Newburgh, NY. Louis Jr would have been 28 years old.


On May 4, 1967, his grandfather Apolonius Jagodzinski/a died in Manhattan, NY.  Louis Jr would have been 31 years old.


The death of his grandmother would have made him sad, but the death of his grandfather wouldn't have caused him any concern. No one really remembers their grandfather at all. My mother said she can remember her maternal aunts saying how mean he was, but this is unproven.

In 1968, we now have them in California. The business directory has them listed as living at 1912 San Benito St, Fairfield, CA. Louis Jr is still working with the USAF. He is now 32 years old.

Again, we have to ask why Fairfield, California if he's still working for the USAF? It was more than likely he was redeployed to Travis Air Force Base which is located here. Remember this is at the height of the Vietnam War.

"Travis would become known as the "Gateway to the Pacific" in its role as the principal military airlift hub in the western United States. Initially equipped with legacy C-124 Globemaster and C-133 Cargomaster aircraft from the 1501st, the year 1966 would also see the 60 MAW introduce the Air Force's new all-jet heavy airlifter, the C-141 Starlifter. In 1969, the 349th Military Airlift Wing (349 MAW) of the Air Force Reserve (AFRES) was also established as an "Associate" wing to the 60 MAW, with both units sharing the same aircraft and eventually seamlessly mixing flight crews, maintenance crews and other support personnel." Source
I don't know which group he was in or what/if he flew. I do know the base was one where many of the soldiers who fought in Vietnam actually flew into before being flown home based upon some reading I've done.

In 1970, 1971, , we have him listed with the same address and occupation. They do have a phone number of 3986.

In his Veterans Affairs file, he has he had enlisted once again on February 19, 1970 and had been released on August 31, 1974. He was 34 years old. After, I do not know what employment he had.

Jan 22 1975, his father, Louis Peter Gauquie, dies in Newburgh, New York due to mesothelioma. This was probably caused when he took up plumbing and/or cleaning out chimneys. This places Louis in Victorville, CA.

His father's obituary.

April 30, 1975 Vietnam War ends. South Vietnam surrenders to North Vietnam as North Vietnamese troops enter Saigon, ENDING the Vietnam conflict.

In 1977, his son Louis III has a son. He names him Vincent P Gauquie. He's born in San Bernardino California. He was 37 years old.

On June 12, 1980, his daughter Debra Gauquie graduates from Victor Valley Christian School, in San Bernardino. He was 40 years old.

What I believe to be his daughter Debra's graduation in the newspaper. 
On October 24, 1981, his daughter Debra marries Michael J Biles in San Bernardino, California. This is proven by marriage indexes. He was 41 years old.

On November 15, 1983, Louis III's son, Vincent dies. It lists Louis Jr and his wife's location as Victorville, CA. Louis Jr's son is living in Las Vegas, NV. He was 43 years old.

His grandson's obituary. He was aged 6.
On October 15, 1985, Louis Michael Gauquie, known as Louis III, is married in Clark, Nevada to Bonnie S Cook. He was 45 years old.

The US Phone and Address Directories have Louis Jr as living from 1994-1997 in Victorville, California. 

According to his Veterans file(above), Louis Jr dies on July 12, 1995. I would say he died in Victorville, California as this was his last place of residence. He would have been 55 years old. I have not been able to locate his obituary as yet.

His mother, Janet, would continue to live until 1999, when she passes away around Newburgh, New York according to the SSDI or Social Security Death Index. 
Me sitting down trying to figure out
what to write to Aunt Edith.
Credit: J. Fitzgerald

Earlier in 2019, I have used the last address I was able to track down of Aunt Edith's and wrote to her hoping she would write back, so I could reconnect with this side of the family. I would love to put
together more of Uncle Louis' puzzle and get to know any of the cousins I have on this side of the family.

As you can see, Louis Jr's life was made by moving around all over. The biggest part was when he joined the military, which sent him to the other side of the US and away from all his family. He had a very hard life with the moving but also with his father's work.

Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Blog Challenge- Poor Man's Orange - Religion within the family

In an earlier post, I mentioned a challenge thrown out among one of my genealogy groups. The challenge, mentioned in Family Tree Frog's blog, used the movie Poor Man's Orange which centers on a Catholic Irish Family.

When I went through ideas regarding a post, One of them was a post about religion within my family.  Then I thought about religion within my family and I have to admit, I never really think about it when thinking about my research on my family. I've always been told we're Catholics and no more or no less.

Hubby's Family
With my husband's family? This was a major hurdle due to the family's background on both sides and there's been many ideas and reasons why parts of his family have flip flopped. It makes from some really good debates and ideas which have been batted around each time its brought up. Think of a cat with a mouse on a rope - its the same idea as here. I'm not sure if hubby has blogged about it yet, but you can look to see if he has here.

My Family- Paternal
Anyhow, getting back to my family. My paternal side I knew was Catholic because of the crosses in my grandmother's apartment she had when I was growing up. Further, my Uncle John, went to church every weekend hail or shine. I think the only weekends he hadn't gone was when he was really sick or they closed the roads. I still remember when I would stay with my grandmother, she would always say "John will be here after he goes to church." and she looked forward to those times. Sometimes I would even get to see my cousins if they were with him.
Part of St. Patrick's Church (Credit Picture: FB Group)

When it came to my grandmother and uncle's funerals, they were at the same place - St Patrick's in Newburgh, NY. I knew my uncle would have his services there, but to my knowledge I never saw my grandmother go to church which shocked me when I learned her services would be there too. It was only when I started doing my research I was told they allowed my grandmother to have her services there because of my uncle. She hadn't been to a service in years prior to her passing. Again, this was new to me.

Further, when I started to dig back into this part of my family history, I found my father had made his communion when I was sent a picture of him when he was a little boy from his cousin who had it in some family pictures. I didn't know who it was until I sent it to my father asking and he replied back "Its ME!" and my mouth dropped open.
My Father in the late 1930's or Early 1940's (Credit: Cousin Krzysztof)
Then when I found out the population of Polish people that were Roman Catholic I knew it had to be true. Add this to my finding my grandparent's 2nd marriage certificate in St Monica's Catholic Church in NYC, and my great grandparent's marriage certificate, in Russian, in a Catholic Church. This one talks about church banns and how my great grandfather was of a different parish, but still had the banns done in BOTH churches. This was very unique apparently. This meant our association with the Catholic Church went back centuries on this side of our tree!
My Great Grandparents marriage record in Russian (Credit Polish Archives)

My grandfather's side, even though he and my grandmother got married in a Catholic Church, could have converted over to Catholic. I haven't done much research on this side as yet, but it should be interesting to find out more.
St Monica's in NYC (Credit & Google)

My grandparents wedding certificate with Church name (Credit NYC Archives)

My Family- Maternal
Jules and Annie's headstone (Credit: Findagrave)
Now onto my mother's side. On my mother's paternal side, her grandmother, Annie Larsen, I'm not sure what religion she was growing up, although  Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark  was and is the main one in Denmark - the country she comes from. Her and my great grandfather Jules, were married by a Justice of the Peace, so this wouldn't be a clue either. Lastly, I would like to add, while these were all facts, I know Jules was Catholic and they were both heavily into the church AND are actually buried on the church grounds - St Mary's Church in Washingtonville, NY. It could be she converted or just started to follow the Catholic ways after they married.
Picture of St Mary's from their FB Page
As I said, Annie married Jules in a civil ceremony. Jules has always been an interesting creature in my opinion. He was raised in Belgium until he was 1 by his mother who was a servant when she became pregnant. His father was drafted into Belgium's army as a rifleman. However, when he found out about Jules' mother having Jules, he married her. The documents were recorded like they were Roman Catholic and the main religion in Belgium is Catholic. Besides, the documents I found going back to the 1700s all were Catholic in wording. Add this to him being heavily into the church in the USA and being buried with Annie and on the grounds of St. Mary's Church in Washingtonville, NY and I could say the whole line is Catholic.
Jules' Birth Record and info on father from Belgium Archives

Although, some of the cousins off of my line, were either in Catholic or in different religions which was interesting when I was looking at the different people. Some of these are below from a my cousin Jacqueline in Belgium.
Bertha Emma Barbara Verhaeghe known as Sister Maria Rufina
Jean Amand Verhaeghe in his office at church before his death
Picture of Oskar Verhaeghe as priest
Pic of Remi Eugene Verhaeghe as priest
Pic of Remi Leon Julien
Lon Ostrzycki's Church where he is the pastor. Lon's sons, cousins are all priests and/or ministers.

My mother's maternal line is a bit easier. I found my mother had made her communion when we went through her box of papers. Inside a small bible was the picture of her as a little girl and I asked her about it. She didn't remember where, but confirmed it was at her communion. Then when I would go back and ask about her mother, she didn't or wouldn't say much at all. Talking to my cousins and other relatives, I found my grandmother - her mother - was committed in part because of her going around blessing everything she could see, touch, feel, etc. and this was every day and all day.

Then when I went back to my grandmother's mother, I found they were Roman Catholics and Polish. As I've already mentioned above, this was normal to the people of Poland in religion. As I found other cousins, we agreed with the Roman Catholic religion aspect and they had gone back farther - to the 1700s - and found the religion had gone back that far as well. What's even better, is with my grandmother's other siblings, they are still keeping with the religion - my cousin Jason goes, and a few of my mother's cousins and their children all go and are reverends and priests in the south of the US.

With my mother's grandfather, the questionable Apolonius Jagodzinski/Leo Barry/Leo Berry (among other names) I found he came from the Galicia region of Poland. This is one of my brick walls as he changed names, and disappeared for periods of time which I found when I had is alien file pulled and sent to me.

My Takings
Growing up, mainly under my mother's care taking, I was told I was baptized (at St. Patrick's) but never had really gone to church. Growing up, I called myself a Roman Catholic but was mainly a community religion type of person. If someone I was around was going to church, I'd go with them not caring which religion it was.

If asked if today I go to church, I would say honestly - No, I don't. Why? Mainly because when the times for service are on, I'm usually busy doing other things. If they were easier to get to (the churches are only here and there and I'd have to travel to get to a Roman Catholic one) and have times when it would be better for me to attend I would. I do try and catch the Pope's online services for main holidays though.

I never take or put anyone's religion against them. However, if they decided to try and use it as an excuse to do something bad or unjust, then that's something else altogether. However, religion is NOT to blame - the person is.

I learned this by doing research of countries histories in Europe - Like Poland. Before it was attacked, Poland was one of the places on earth that it didn't matter what religion -if any- you had and accepted your unconditionally. This is how it should be no matter what.

September 11th
I do have to put this in here as most people put religion in with this event.

In fact, when September 11th happened, I was working with a Muslim on a few problems we were having at work with a computer program. He stayed away about a week as everyone was having problems with emotions. I as just glad my family was safe and felt for others who weren't. Anyhow, he came in one day and I sat down and I went back to working with him just like before. He sat there and I could tell he wasn't comfortable. I asked what was going on and he told me he felt like I was blaming him.

I looked at him straight in the eye and asked him if he had anything to do with what happened even though I knew he hadn't. He said No. Then I asked him what the problem was then? His mouth dropped open in shock. I told him I knew he hadn't had anything to do with it and whatever was/is going on there would be figured out there, but didn't have anything to do with us and what we were doing. I could see he still wasn't convinced and I asked him what else I could do to make him more comfortable and he couldn't answer. I told him when he figured it out to let me know, but I didn't - and still don't - blame him. In fact, I felt bad for him because of what others did made him feel like he had to stay away from people. That's just wrong.

In Conclusion
Religion can be many things to all of us.  Some people take the book, whichever they are using, and can use it for good or bad - just like anything. People use this for an excuse and that's all it is. An excuse.
Credit
You can read one thing and disagree with it and that's fine. However, what I'm seeing more and more is people disagreeing and then things turning nasty with name calling and being verbally attacked. That's just not something that should be done. Its not right. Different views on things (religion, political, taxes, traffic) makes us all different, but just because someone thinks or believes different things shouldn't make them a target for hate that's exploded in the last year.

And that just isn't right - at all. For anyone.